Anfield Road & AXA Training Centre

[grbi]

New Anfield gets the green light

Liverpool's new stadium plans have been passed by the city council.

ps. polako se moramo oprostiti od Anfilda 

[red till dead]

i dobili su dozvolu za povećanje kapaciteta , ako će biti potrebe , sa 60 somova , na 75 somova , što je super....moram reći , da su se novi vlasnici stvarno pokazali sa stadionom , jer je prije njihovog preuzimanja i uopće miješanja u taj čitav projekt,
bilo odlučeno da se stadion neće moći proširivati iznad kapaciteta od 60 glava , stvarno su napravili impresivnu stvar....
još da se pokažu sa parama za igrače....

[king kenny]

i dobili su dozvolu za povećanje kapaciteta , ako će biti potrebe , sa 60 somova , na 75 somova , što je super....moram reći , da su se novi vlasnici stvarno pokazali sa stadionom , jer je prije njihovog preuzimanja i uopće miješanja u taj čitav projekt,
bilo odlučeno da se stadion neće moći proširivati iznad kapaciteta od 60 glava , stvarno su napravili impresivnu stvar....
još da se pokažu sa parama za igrače....

ja stvarno ne znam šta bih mislio u vezi ovog povećanja broja mjesta.Mislim,više mjesta naravno nosi i više love,ali(koliko god mi to ne htjeli priznat) sumnjam da će taj stadion nakon početne euforije(1-2 sezone) bit popunjen osim na velikim tekmama,a meni osobno nema ništa odvratnije od poupraznog stadiona.

[Hrc]

Užas... 

[Dubrava83]

Moj komentar je... PREDOBRO! Neće biti pun? Kada? A navijačka tribina... to je to! Došlo je novo doba...

[Lobo]

nek ga naprave na Laništu 

[Lasko]

Liverpool FC je klub s najdužom listom čekanja na sezonske karte domaćih utakmica. Stadion od 75000 će bit premalen za sve.

[red till dead]

Liverpool FC je klub s najdužom listom čekanja na sezonske karte domaćih utakmica. Stadion od 75000 će bit premalen za sve.

to sam pročitao negdje , 50 tisuća ljudi je na listi čekanja...GODIŠNJE

[king kenny]

Liverpool FC je klub s najdužom listom čekanja na sezonske karte domaćih utakmica. Stadion od 75000 će bit premalen za sve.

to sam pročitao negdje , 50 tisuća ljudi je na listi čekanja...GODIŠNJE

to su mitovi i legende.Čitam po drugim forumima da se masa ljudi prijavljuje za tu godišnju ulaznicu znajući da je ne može dobit samo da bi mogli reć da su "na listi čekanja za sezonsku kartu".Pa već sada postoje utakmice u kojima bude slobodnih mjesta na Anfieldu,a kamoli kad stadion bude skoro duplo veći.Nadam se da sam u krivu,ali....

Liverpool Football Club currently restricts its season ticket holders to around 29,000. The season ticket waiting list is claimed to be 10-14,000. It is suspected that the real waiting list figure is closer to half that due to multiple applications, "officially unsanctioned" ticket inheritance arrangements, long-term drop-outs etc. Indeed, Rick Parry himself has recently hinted at it being nearer half the originally perpetrated figure. Discounting away supporters the rest of the regular 44,000 attendance is composed of around 12,000 specific match day ticket applications.
[Incidentally, it should be stated here that the reason for the club restricting the number of season ticket holders and maximising the match-day applications is to balance the make-up of the clientele attending Anfield thereby satisfying the lucrative day-tripper following which in turn helps to sustain club shop turnover.]Back to the argument, the crucial point as far as the optimum capacity issue is concerned, is that the 12,000 match day applications effectively account for the whole of the season ticket waiting list demand.YES, you heard right.
In other words for a run-of-the-mill league fixture there is NO FURTHER DEMAND OF ANY REAL SIGNIFICANCE to be tapped into. Thus, the forty odd thousand that is currently Liverpool's average attendance happens also to be - moreorless - Liverpool's maximum regular attendance OTHER THAN FOR the most attractive fixtures.This submission is borne out both HISTORICALLY and by reference to THIS SEASON'S ATTENDANCES(2003. m.opaska) at the aforesaid run-of-the-mill league games and also cup games where the possession of a season ticket is not required.
The highest average attendance in our club's entire history is around 48,000. That came at a time when our club was eminently successful and capacity was nudging 56,750. That record average comprised several games at - or almost at - capacity such as Everton, United, Chelsea, Leeds but reveals several lesser fixtures struggling to break past 38,000.Correspondingly, most of the less attractive league fixtures THIS season have failed to attract full capacities whilst attendances for cup-ties - apart from the most attractive European ties and the finely balanced domestic Semi-Final against Palace with their large away support - have been SIGNIFICANTLY below capacity.Staying on this point, the attraction of European games is often cited as a reason for a significantly greater capacity. Yet, the reality does not bear this out. Apart from the recent Roma and Barcelona ties the attendance at every European tie this past decade or so has fallen significantly below capacity or has barely reached capacity. And, contrary to unsubstantiated rumours, even for the Roma and Barcelona ties it is unlikely whether there remained that much unquenched demand - certainly from supporters who could by any stretch of the imagination be branded as core supporters. And taking this point even further how many such fly-by-night supporters will pledge their support if such fixtures were ever to become run-of-the-mill in the Champions League as opposed to one-off mouthwatering affairs?All this prompts the question - if we just about manage to pack in forty odd thousand at Anfield on such occasions how on earth would we ever hope to fill a 70,000 stadium, particularly once the novelty of such a prestigious move has evaporated?We would justifiably ask. Where are all these mythical legions of supporters to be found? The ones cited by so many as the reason behind the move? The ones who so vociferously support the idea of the new stadium and who vow so adamantly that they will fill it?We must stress that we are not setting out deliberately to goad here. The fact is hard-hitting, soul-searching questions simply demand to be asked AND ANSWERED before the club begins even to entertain the possibility of quitting our beloved home.We at A4E have been Anfield regulars for many many years. We've seen the fickle souls come and go. Surely what we are saying does at least prompt the need for more serious thought than has to date been given into the reasoning behind the move and the assessment of our realistic regular active drawing power.If at some such games we sometimes struggle to amass 20,000 of our own kind - such as has been the case so often these past few years - how the hell on earth can we then seriously look in the eye the prospect of a stadium with almost four times that capacity?Let's be brutally honest, it simply doesn't stack up. There is another interesting paradox to be considered here.
If Liverpool were to move to a 70,000 seater stadium, the demand for season tickets would in all likelihood be significantly reduced. How many ordinary fans would bother forking out £400-00 or £500-00 up-front for a season ticket when guaranteed entry without one? After all, what else is a season ticket purchased for? Essentially it is for the guarantee of admission. So what happens? Supply of seats goes up. Demand for season tickets goes down. You pick and choose your matches and obtain a ticket on the day or pay at the gate. And for cup finals? Well, simply take your chances in the same way as everybody else will likely end up doing.So in that event, how many WITHOUT season tickets will then turn up on a cold slushy New Years Day to admire the silky attraction of Southampton? Would the 38,000 actually managed this season be repeated or would a sub 30,000 crowd have been more likely? It is another crucial question that needs addressing by Rick Parry and the pro-movers.Of course, one of the misconceptions in this debate is that we have an active support - ie those that actually go as opposed to simply making loud and concerted noises about going - to equate with that of Manchester United.People watch United comfortably filling their 67,000 capacity stadium for every league game and, more pertinently, for every domestic cup and Champion's League fixture. They then automatically assume that we could do the same if we possessed a stadium of comparable capacity.Sadly, as much as it might hurt us to say, that is simply not the case.United have since the war been able to boast a significantly bigger following than ourselves. Whilst we may lay claim to be quite comfortably the second biggest, United regrettably are out on their own.Contrary to the popular perception, the reason for United's greater volume of active support is not down to busloads of Cockneys and Devonians. Nor is it down to the hordes of native Mancunians or Salfordonians either.No, the reason why United have no trouble whatsoever filling their stadium on a regular basis is because they just so happen to be at the heart of the most fervent footballing hotbed in the entire world. The inestimable football devotees of the North West and Lancashire look inwards to Manchester United as their favourite team. The North West represents United's hinterland. It is akin to the numerical support that Barcelona can draw upon in Catalonia. Or, we daresay, the carve-up of virtually ALL Scottish and Ulster support between Rangers and Celtic.Only Merseyside, arguably THE most football-crazy part of the very same region, significantly bucks the distinctly United-flavoured Lancastrian trend.None of this is easy for Liverpudlians to stomach. Unfortunately, it is the way it is. Whether we on Merseyside like it or not. Many vicarious followers our club may boast but when it comes down to getting actual bums on seats on a regular basis, United simply have a hell of a lot more bums. Fact!Moving quickly on to the wider slightly longer term picture. It may currently be BOOM time for soccer. How long will it last, though? Even the most optimistic forecasts predict the vogue has reached its zenith in Europe.Unfashionability will come. Sometime. De-gentrification will arrive. Sometime. The next recession, too. Sometime.Let us not forget exactly what a recession is about. On Merseyside it will mean even larger chunks of the football loving population with no job, no money, no life. At such times £25 for a football match becomes somewhat beyond the compass of even the most fanatical Red. Back in the eighties amid such circumstances the odd game might just have been affordable. Nowadays? Forget it.

[Dubrava83]

nek ga naprave na Laništu 

[Zoky]

Zanimljiv tekst kenny, a bojim se i dosta točan... bit će totalno loše ako ćemo napraviti novi stadion za 60 000 gledatelja ako će ih na stadionu biti 45 tisuća, ili manje...

[Od Bartolovca]

Bome niš posebno    biti če prekrasan 

[Zoky]

Dobrodošao Bartolovac

[Od Bartolovca]

Fala Zoky

[Anarion]

prije par tjedana sam posjetio Liverpool i Manchester kao i njihove stadione. Nažalost nisam uspio nabaviti kartu ali sam čuo iz dobro informiranih izvora tamo da 65000 ljudi čeka na sezonsku kartu. Stoga mislim da neće biti neke prevelike muke popuniti ta mjesta jer se ovako karta ne može nabaviti nikako. Usput da kažem obišao sam Anfield i moram priznati da, iako je to mjesto samo po sebi legendarno zbog tradicije kluba i svega toga, u usporedbi s Traffordom izgleda malo i neugledno u najmanju ruku. Zato potpuno podržavam novi stadion i zbog dodatnih mjesta koja će nam zaraditi milijunčeke i zbog izgleda koji doliči najtrofejnijem klubu i budućem osvajaču premier lige